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Operation Golden Lily” and the Secret Legacy of the Black Eagle Trust – “The financial, banking and economic shadow world…is the dirty little secret of the Western economy. It is a form of money creation that is effectively unchallenged by any form of oversight or accountability as we understand it.” — David Guyatt (former London banking insider and researcher)
In addition to keeping you abreast of some of the more marginalized, ignored, or outright censored stories happening in these heady times of political subterfuge, it is important to understand that conspiracies, false-flag operations, and other skullduggery doesn’t happen in a geo-political vacuum. Indeed, in order to have any kind of grasp on just what is going on in the world today, it is essential that you learn from history. Obviously, I’m not talking about the over-simplified and whitewashed state propaganda that you were forced to learn in school but rather what these schools (even at the university level) always conveniently leave out of the curriculum. You might call what I’m about to discuss a form of “revisionist history” but really…it’s just good old fashioned history that has been covered up and is conspicuously absent from the textbooks. However, understanding this “suppressed history” becomes crucial, if we are to understand what is happening today, and it is necessary in providing the oft-neglected context through which we may eventually begin to see why global affairs have taken on a particular flavor and shape. So, with that in mind, let us begin our brief lesson in occult history.
This story begins in the ancient world during the Han Dynasty in Greco-Roman times when the countries of the Middle East and Europe were connected to countries of the Far East through an extensive network of trade routes, which (in terms of the most coveted good of China) was known as the Silk Road. Indeed, countries such as Cambodia, Indonesia, India, and especially China were rich in exotic spices, prized goods such as porcelain made items, and of course ornate silk-spun textiles among other beautiful rarities bought and traded in the ancient world. The primary method of payment for all of these goods and universally accepted even today was silver and gold, and over the thousands of years that this extensive trade was taking place…China was able to accumulate vast treasures of silver and gold in addition to precious gemstones. Needless to say, this did not go unnoticed by the aristocracy of Europe (particularly Great Britain), who sought to take Asia’s riches by hook or crook. Using the naval fleets of the East India Company, Britain indeed was able to addict millions of people (including much of the Chinese elite) to opium, in what have come to be known as the “Opium Wars”. Remember, this was a time when the British Admiralty was the most powerful military force in the world and when as the saying went…the “Sun Never Sets on the British Empire”. MORE – http://parapoliticaljournal.com/2014/…

“Operation Golden Lily” and the Secret Legacy of the Black Eagle Trust Posted 25 January 2007 – 01:08 PM
Sterling Seagrave has agreed to answer questions about his book, Gold Warriors. This is what Robert D. Steele had to say about the book:
This book is earth-shattering and faith-shaking, a well-documented tale of deceit at the highest levels of the US government. So controversial and potentially explosive are the findings of this book, to wit, that the White House recovered most of the Nazi and Japanese loot and created a secret slush fund for covert political operations world-wide, that the authors go the extra mile and offer, at a nominal price, two CD-ROMS containing 60,000 pages of supporting documentation including the Japanese treasure maps used by the US to recover the gold and other valuables.
Major players include Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, and Nixon, both Allen and John Foster Dulles, Douglas MacArthur, John McCloy, and the famous unconventional warrior Edward Lansdale. What we learn from this book is that those writing about “blowback” (the consequences of unwise US actions) have barely scratched the surface. What we learn is that rather than truly seeking to help the Japanese, Chinese, and other looted nations recover in the aftermath of WWII, the most senior leaders of the US government, no doubt with the best of intentions, actually conspired with Nazi bankers and the Japanese imperial family to create a Black Eagle Trust controlled by a very select hand-picked cabal in Washington.
Originally used to fight communism, the Black Eagle Trust, according to the authors and as thoroughly documented by the book and the two CD-ROMS (which I am happy to have in hand), quickly became a global slush fund used to bribe national leaders and manipulate elections around the world. This fund remains in existence today, making the Swiss Holocaust funds seem like loose-change. According to the authors, major banks are “addicted” to the funds and would face collapse if public investigations resulted in a forced return of this gold and related certificates to the rightful owners.
The authors have produced a magnificent work of both scholarship and investigative journalism. They document the extent of Japanese looting of Korea (beginning in 1895) and China as well as the other countries in the “co-prosperity sphere.” They document the manner in which Japan hid most of the gold in the Philippines (some in Indonesia), and were forced to leave it there from 1943 onwards, when US submarine interdiction became too effective to risk shipments homeward.
I found the level of detail in this book to be quite gripping. The ingenious nature of the Japanese burial sites, with caverns below the more obvious tunnels, with sea-water protection, with maps created in reverse–and the in-bred cruelty of the Japanese, thinking nothing of burying all of the US and other national slave labor *and the Japanese engineers* alive as the final stage of protecting the looted treasure, leave one stunned.
The authors document the central role played by Lansdale in recognizing the opportunity and then briefing MacArthur and then President Truman. According to the authors, the architects of the Black Eagle Trust were three advisors to President’s Roosevelt’s Secretary of War, Henry Stimson: John McCloy (later head of the World Bank), Robert Lovett (later Secretary of Defense), and Robert Anderson (later Secretary of the Treasury). They made the case to Roosevelt, and presumably to Truman after Roosevelt died, that it would be impractical to return the looted gold to the rightful owners, in part because many of the looted countries were now under Soviet control.
The authors, who conducted many interviews in support of the work, including interviews of former CIA deputy director Ray Cline, who they say was involved with Lansdale and the gold in the 1940’s and remained involved with the black gold through the 1980’s, provide copies of documents showing the redirection of the looted gold to 176 bank accounts in 42 countries. The gold was then used to support the creation of gold bearer certificates that were in turned used to bribe the most senior officials around the world.
The authors tell a shocking tale of how quickly MacArthur chose to collaborate with the very leadership of Japan that declared war on the USA and was responsible for genocide and looting in Asia on a scale rarely achieved by anyone else. Bringing the story up to date, the authors show how prior attempts to investigate the Black Eagle Trust have led to the ruin of individuals such as Norbert Schlei, at one time deputy attorney general to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. While I have no direct knowledge and cannot be certain myself, I believe the authors have provided a sufficiently compelling case to warrant an international investigation concurrently with a General Accounting Office investigation to be chartered by Congress with unlimited supeona powers specifically directed against classified personalities and archives.
If this story is true, and I personally think that it is, then the US government, in active collusion with the very people the American people fought to defeat in WWII, has been guilty of fraud and depravity on a global scale and against the best interests of both the American people, and the against the rightful owners of the looted gold and other treasures. The authors may well have uncovered the last really big secret of the post-WW II era, and in so doing, opened the way for a restoration of the balance of power among diverse nations, and a sharp delimitation of the abuses that appear to characterize American leadership when it thinks it can rely on secret gold and stolen oil to engage in imperial adventures and domestic improprieties. As an American citizen and voter, and as a person of faith who believes that we must do unto others as we would have them do unto us, I find this book to be shocking, credible, and a basis for popular outrage and demands for truth and reconciliation.
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#2 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #2] John Simkin
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Posted 27 January 2007 – 08:13 AM
I have to confess I have not studied very much Japanese history. Therefore, most of what you have written in Gold Warriors is new to me. It is a fascinating story and would make a great television documentary. It could also be turned into a Hollywood movie. The image of the 175 chief engineers holding a party 220 feet underground in the mountains of Luzon while General Yamashita and the Japanese princes slip out and give the orders for the dynamite charges to be set off in the access tunnels, entombing the men inside, would give the film a great start. Hollywood likes explosions. The story also provides plenty of torture scenes that would go down well with the masses. Unfortunately, the story line would severely damage popular conceptions of the behaviour of the United States government following the Second World War.
(1) I would like to start by asking you what kind of reaction did you get when the book was first published in the United States? Was the book discussed in the mainstream media? For example, I do not remember it being discussed in the UK media.
(2) On page 6 you explain how John Foster Dulles arranged the signing of the peace treaty that stated “the Allied Powers waive all reparations claims of the Allied Powers and their nationals arising out of any actions taken by Japan”. On page 7 you add that “at the end of the post war occupation, all Japan’s indicted war criminals were set free”. You also mention the role played by John J. McCloy played in these events. Is there any connection with McCloy’s actions in Germany in 1950-51? For example, appointing Reinhard Gehlen as head of the West German Secret Service and the freeing of German industrialists, Alfried Krupp and Friedrich Flick, who had both been convicted of serious war crimes at Nuremberg.
(3) Several of the people involved in setting up and administrating the Black Eagle Trust: John Foster Dulles, John J. McCloy, Edward Lansdale, Robert B. Anderson, Paul Helliwell, Ray Cline, etc., were later involved in some very dubious activities. Is there any connection between what these men did in Japan and their relationship with the far-right and the arms and oil industries?
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#3 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #3] Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 29 January 2007 – 10:13 PM
John Simkin, on Jan 27 2007, 09:13 AM, said:
(1) I would like to start by asking you what kind of reaction did you get when the book was first published in the United States? Was the book discussed in the mainstream media? For example, I do not remember it being discussed in the UK media.
Normally, we have written about China, so after the initial outrage and very serious death threats over THE SOONG DYNASTY, and the banning of the book in Taiwan, things calmed down. The Chiangs and Soongs fell from grace, the KMT fell from power, and three different Chinese translations of SOONG were done in Taiwan. But when we published THE YAMATO DYNASTY about Japan’s imperial family, and the way it was manipulated by the JP Morgan and Rothschild clique starting in the mid 19th century (exactly as they did during the same epoch in America), and how they used the Quaker network in the palace to keep Hirohito on the throne after WW2, we quickly found that we had instantly become the enemies of the Chrysanthemom Club. This is the Japan lobby, very similar to the Taiwan lobby, but different players. We exposed one of the key players, the DCM at the US Embassy in Japan, who was married to the daughter of Japan’s finance minister. To avoid scandal, he was immediately recalled to Washington where he used his new position at DoS to attack us. Starting by planting extremely negative and false reviews of YAMATO in the NYT and WashPost. So, when word got out that we were working on GOLD WARRIORS, we began to be sabotaged in advance. We were deceitfully approached by a NYC publisher who then had our book vetted by a Washington attorney closely tied to the CIA – so the CIA knew all about it. We discovered we were blocked at every major publisher in the USA. We tried UK publishers and Transworld (which had sold over 60,000 copies of LORDS OF THE RIM), refused even to look at GOLD WARRIORS. So, we knew we’d been slipped the Black Spot. We decided to let our usual French publisher launch the book in French. Both YAMATO DYNASTY and GOLD WARRIORS did very well in French and were widely reviewed. Because so many WW2 victims were dying of old age, we felt compelled to get an English language edition out, so we published one in trade paper format at a French printer, which we sold on-line at our website. When Verso Books read it, they freaked and immediately bought it from us, saying it was « your incredible book ». Verso did a very fine job, both in UK and the US where they had a standing distribution deal with WW Norton. There was a flurry of impressive reviews, all to be seen at our website http://www.bowstring.net but Chalmers Johnson, doyen of Japan scholars in the US, chose to review it in the London Review of Books rather than the New York Review of Books or the Los Angeles Times. He was a great admirer of Norbert Schei, but had been a consultant to the CIA for decades, so he was wary about giving the book such a positive review inside America.
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#4 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #4] Sterling Seagrave
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John Simkin, on Jan 27 2007, 09:13 AM, said:
(2) On page 6 you explain how John Foster Dulles arranged the signing of the peace treaty that stated “the Allied Powers waive all reparations claims of the Allied Powers and their nationals arising out of any actions taken by Japan”. On page 7 you add that “at the end of the post war occupation, all Japan’s indicted war criminals were set free”. You also mention the role played by John J. McCloy played in these events. Is there any connection with McCloy’s actions in Germany in 1950-51? For example, appointing Reinhard Gehlen as head of the West German Secret Service and the freeing of German industrialists, Alfried Krupp and Friedrich Flick, who had both been convicted of serious war crimes at Nuremberg.
Yes, as we explain in much greater detail later in the book, McCloy was part of the group that used Nazi looted gold and Jap looted gold to set up the Black Eagle Trust and a multitude of slush funds growing out of it. We identify most of these people in our book, and they are essentially the same people you include in your excellent Assassination text. Webster Tarpley and Tony Chaitkin also identify them in THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY OF GEORGE BUSH. And they’ve been identified in other books we list in our bibliography, such as those about the Dulles claque and the Carlisle Group. It’s a network that includes the actual owners of The Fed and The Bank of England, Brown Brothers Harriman, Morgan-Chase, Citibank, Rockefeller Holdings, Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grove, Alpine Lodge, etc. etc. I think of the apex of this group as the Druids. Below them are their servants. People like McCloy, the Dulles Brothers, were just outsiders who became insiders because they had talent and could do the leg work. We added two additional chapters to the trade paperback from Verso, which explains a lot about these networks. We’ve dealt with them in the past in ALL our nine books, in different ways, which means we’ve spent thirty years writing about them in various manifestations. The more we learn, the more interesting it becomes (and the more depressing).
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#5 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #5] Sterling Seagrave
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John Simkin, on Jan 27 2007, 09:13 AM, said:
(3) Several of the people involved in setting up and administrating the Black Eagle Trust: John Foster Dulles, John J. McCloy, Edward Lansdale, Robert B. Anderson, Paul Helliwell, Ray Cline, etc., were later involved in some very dubious activities. Is there any connection between what these men did in Japan and their relationship with the far-right and the arms and oil industries?
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Sure. Allen Dulles was a servant of the people who set up the Fed, and Edward Lansdale also. Lansdale was extremely close to HL Hunt and the Murchisons, and to Bill Pawley, Meyer Lansky, Nixon, Santo Trafficante, Shackley and Clines. Col. Fletcher Prouty, who firstmet Lansdale in Manila in 1945 and later became the primary liaison between DIA and CIA, while also being a VIP pilot of Air Force One, was a crucial source for our research. He personally identified Lansdale in the crowd at Dealey Plaza. You may not know this, but if they had failed at Dealey Plaza, JFK was supposed to go hunting with the Texas Robber Barons the following day. I could go on and on and on.
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#6 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #6] John Simkin
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In your book you describe the atrocities committed by the Japanese. The historian R. J. Rummel’s claims that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered between 6,000,000 and 10,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. It seems to me that this is comparable to the Nazi Holocaust.
(1) Why do you think it has not received the same sort of attention as the crimes committed by the Germans?
(2) What role did the American authorities play in the media presentation of these events?
(3) What was the motivation of the American authorities to cover-up these events?
(4) Is it a coincidence that John McCloy was involved in both protecting Nazi and Japanese war criminals after the war?
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#7 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #7] Michael Hogan
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Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 04:16 PM, said:
…..I think of the apex of this group as the Druids. Below them are their servants. People like McCloy, the Dulles Brothers, were just outsiders who became insiders because they had talent and could do the leg work. We added two additional chapters to the trade paperback from Verso, which explains a lot about these networks.
Mr. Seagrave,
Thanks for joining this Forum. I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts. Based on information in this and other threads I just ordered the hardback edition of Gold Warriors. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Could you briefly elaborate on the two additional chapters contained in the paperback version? Thank you very much.
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#8 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #8] Sterling Seagrave
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John Simkin, on Feb 2 2007, 09:57 AM, said:
In your book you describe the atrocities committed by the Japanese. The historian R. J. Rummel’s claims that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered between 6,000,000 and 10,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. It seems to me that this is comparable to the Nazi Holocaust.
(1) Why do you think it has not received the same sort of attention as the crimes committed by the Germans?
Arriving at a probable number of Japan’s war victims who died is difficult for several interesting reasons, which have to do with Western perceptions. Both Americans and Europeans fell into the unfortunate habit of seeing WW1 and WW2 as separate wars, failing to comprehend that they were interlaced in a multitude of ways (not merely that one was the consequence of the other, or of the rash behavior of the victors after WW1). Wholly aside from this basic misconception, most Americans think of WW2 in Asia as having begun with Pearl Harbor, the British with the fall of Singapore, and so forth. The Chinese would correct this by identifying the Marco Polo Bridge incident as the start, or the Japanese seizure of Manchuria earlier. It really began in 1895 with Japan’s assassination of Korea’s Queen Min, and invasion of Korea, resulting in its absorption into Japan, followed quickly by Japan’s seizure of southern Manchuria, etc. – establishing that Japan was at war from 1895-1945. Prior to 1895, Japan had only briefly invaded Korea during the Shogunate, long before the Meiji Restoration, and the invasion failed. Therefore, Rummel’s estimate of 6-million to 10-million dead between 1937 (the Rape of Nanjing) and 1945, may be roughly corollary to the time-frame of the Nazi Holocaust, but it falls far short of the actual numbers killed by the Japanese war machine. If you add, say, 2-million Koreans, 2-million Manchurians, Chinese, Russians, many East European Jews (both Sephardic and Ashkenazy), and others killed by Japan between 1895 and 1937 (conservative figures), the total of Japanese victims is more like 10-million to 14-million. Of these, I would suggest that between 6-million and 8-million were ethnic Chinese, regardless of where they were resident. So, the late Iris Chang and many others have been correct in concluding that the Japanese holocaust is in every way the equal of the Nazi holocaust, even in terms of the bizarre, grotesque, and barbaric manner in which these ethnic Chinese were murdered. It goes beyond ethnicity, because hundreds of thousands of Filipinos were slaughtered in equally grisly fashion by the Japanese, as were ethnic Indonesians and Malays. I count myself very lucky, indeed, because my father spirited me and my mother and brother off to Rangoon, where we got aboard the last refugee ship to Calcutta (my father staying behind to care for wounded), so when the Japanese arrived at our town on the Chinese border, they were only able to find our two Irish terriers. After summoning the entire local population together, they hung the two terriers up in a banyan tree, and hacked them apart with their swords, as our proxies.
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#9 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #9] Anthony Thorne
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Posted 05 February 2007 – 11:07 PM
Peter’s note about the ex-Nazi’s, their techniques and their later involvement in all the usual covert ops and conspiracies links right into this old John Judge piece, ‘Assassination as a Tool of Fascism’.
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#10 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #10] Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 06 February 2007 – 08:15 AM
John Simkin, on Feb 2 2007, 09:57 AM, said:
(2) What role did the American authorities play in the media presentation of these events?
The death of FDR brought about a sea-change in America that restored to power essentially the same group that had gained control under Woodrow Wilson and hugely expanded that power under Herbert Hoover. They were the same people who would have preferred an alliance with the Nazis against the Soviets, but were outmaneuvered by FDR and Churchill. Many of them had never lost power under FDR, simply submerging, remaining as a 5th Column, or taking refuge in the OSS, or on Wall Street. Averell Harriman, for example, posed as a Democrat, while his magazine NEWSWEEK became a key reactionary instrument in attacking the credentials of war crimes investigators, journalists, and sabotaging systematically the long-projected reform of Japan into a democratic society. Only land reform was accom-plished before the group including Hoover, Harriman, Morgan, Rockefeller, and others using General MacArthur as their cat’s-paw, were able to redeem Hirohito, free all the indicted war criminals from Sugamo Prison, and enlist the most dangerous of them to suppress any form of democracy, labor unions, or multi-party democracy, re-turning government to the wartime fascists where power remains today. This was done not only to fulfill America’s Puritanical obsession with righteous money, but to acquire Japan (the most industrialized country in Asia) as an economic ally, and as a fascist bulwark against the encroaching Maoists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, or any group of underdogs whose protests could easily be labeled Leftist. Control of US and European media was a priority, a lesson learned from Goebbels, and the vast treas-ures looted by the Nazis and the Japanese were used in secret slush funds to acquire newspapers, magazines, radio and later television, throughout the world. This was an imperfect effort at Mediopoly, but it had the result of dumbing down the audience. And in the meantime war crimes investigators who persisted in Asia were victims of “assisted suicide” or mysterious plane crashes. Thousands of European and Asian POWs and civilian prisoners and slave laborers were buried alive in mine-shafts and treasure vaults by Japanese corporations like Mitsubishi, while survivors were warned not to pursue lawsuits for compensation. Those tainted Japanese corporations quickly regained their global leverage, claiming that their war crimes had been the work of different, earlier, management.
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#11 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #11] Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 06 February 2007 – 06:22 PM
John Simkin, on Feb 2 2007, 09:57 AM, said:
(3) What was the motivation of the American authorities to cover-up these events?
Ultimately, the motive of American politicians, financiers, industrialists, lobbyists, and their journalistic pawns, was to replace global European empires with an American empire – to profit in countless ways from WW2 as they had from WW1. They were quick to do so, so quick that OSS agents in Bangkok who thought they were still at war with fascism were astonished to be replaced overnight by CIA agents who were allied with fascism against communism – publicly. It soon became evident even to the slow-witted among them that power and leverage were attained and secured by money, so once the Nazi and Japanese war loot was in the pipeline, drugs and the laundering of drug money replaced gold as the universal standard backing the dollar. It is no exaggeration to say that the day after WW2 ended, Richard Nixon woke up in bed with Meyer Lansky.
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#12 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #12] Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 07 February 2007 – 07:36 AM
Michael Hogan, on Feb 3 2007, 05:44 PM, said:
Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 04:16 PM, said:
…..I think of the apex of this group as the Druids. Below them are their servants. People like McCloy, the Dulles Brothers, were just outsiders who became insiders because they had talent and could do the leg work. We added two additional chapters to the trade paperback from Verso, which explains a lot about these networks.
Mr. Seagrave,
Thanks for joining this Forum. I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts. Based on information in this and other threads I just ordered the hardback edition of Gold Warriors. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Could you briefly elaborate on the two additional chapters contained in the paperback version? Thank you very much.
Mike Hogan
Mr. Hogan ~
After our first edition was published, we were deluged with new material, some of it surprising to us. Such as the discovery that General Yamaxxxxa’s chauffeur, said to have committed suicide after being tortured by Lansdale and Santa Romana, was still alive two years ago. It appears that his suicide was a red herring to mislead. That he was heavily bribed to reveal the locations of 12 treasure vaults, and then was given safe passage back to Japan and possibly a new identity by MacArthur’s G-2. We therefore added two new chapters to the Verso paperback second edition. For those who read the 1st edition, we put these new chapters on a third CD, the set of three CDs of documentation now available at our website: http://www.bowstring.net including a color photo of the chauffeur (Kojima) taken two years ago in the Philippines.
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#13 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #13] Charles Drago
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Posted 07 February 2007 – 09:52 PM
Mr. Seagrave,
It is difficult for me to overstate the importance of “Gold Warriors” to a meaningful understanding of the deep political structure — its style and its substance.
Secret governments must have their secret treasuries, I suspect.
I’m currently at work on what by all indications should be a major television project — a multi-episode drama in which the historical events related in “GW” play a central role. If all goes well I’m certain that we’ll have much to discuss.
In the interim, and for the purpose of addressing the interests of this forum, I wonder if you might expand upon the so-called “Umbrella” organization. If you’re not already aware of the fact, you should know that the symbol of an open umbrella is directly relevant to the investigation of the identities and motives of the Dealey Plaza conspirators.
Ascribe it to mere intuition and/or the creative process in full swing, but I can’t help thinking that the designers of the assassination somehow signed their work.
With gratitude and respect,
Charles Drago
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#14 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #14] Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 08 February 2007 – 07:07 AM
John Simkin, on Feb 2 2007, 09:57 AM, said:
(4) Is it a coincidence that John McCloy was involved in both protecting Nazi and Japanese war criminals after the war?
It is no coincidence. McCloy was, like the Dulles brothers, one of a large group of handmaidens of the oligarchs in America who were cultivated by the oligarchs of Europe – a struggle that began with Jefferson versus Hamilton. After a number of false starts, the European oligarchs were able to manipulate the US Civil War and to guide the wealthy men who emerged from it into creating the American versions of Japan’s zaibatsu conglomerates. These Robber Barons, who had interlocking direc-torships, were then shown how to create the Federal Reserve and fiat money (all un-der their private control). The same men (J.P. Morgan prominent among them as an agent of the Rothschilds) did the same thing in Japan following the Meiji Restoration, working initially through Jardines, then through Morgan, and the Quaker network in Japan’s imperial family. Rescuing and protecting their counterparts in Germany and Japan became a priority for Wall Street, and McCloy, Harriman, the Dulles Brothers, and many others were as busy after WW2 as they were after WW1, knitting back to-gether the network of vast wealth and power now identified with the Trilateral Com-mission, the World Bank, the IMF, the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove, P2, the Al-pine Lodge, Knights of Malta, ad nauseum. Unlike the Robber Barons, McCloy was not born rich, but he did not have to take off his shoes and socks to count above ten. Hence his unusual role in global affairs.
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Sterling Seagrave, on Feb 5 2007, 02:15 PM, said:
I count myself very lucky, indeed, because my father spirited me and my mother and brother off to Rangoon, where we got aboard the last refugee ship to Calcutta (my father staying behind to care for wounded), so when the Japanese arrived at our town on the Chinese border, they were only able to find our two Irish terriers. After summoning the entire local population together, they hung the two terriers up in a banyan tree, and hacked them apart with their swords, as our proxies.
Fascinating story. Have you considered writing your autobiography?
During your research into the OSS, have you come across the name Jack Alston Crichton? It would be highly significant if he was in China at the end of the war.
Jack Anderson, Mitchell L. WerBell III, Robert Emmett Johnson, John Singlaub, Phil Graham, William Pawley, Tommy Corcoran, Whitey Willauer, Claire Lee Chennault, Paul Helliwell, E. Howard Hunt, Lucien Conein and Ray Cline were all in China during the Second World War. Later, they were all involved in CIA covert operations. Is this just a coincidence?
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Posted 13 February 2007 – 11:32 AM
John Simkin, on Feb 10 2007, 09:04 AM, said:
Sterling Seagrave, on Feb 5 2007, 02:15 PM, said:
I count myself very lucky, indeed, because my father spirited me and my mother and brother off to Rangoon, where we got aboard the last refugee ship to Calcutta (my father staying behind to care for wounded), so when the Japanese arrived at our town on the Chinese border, they were only able to find our two Irish terriers. After summoning the entire local population together, they hung the two terriers up in a banyan tree, and hacked them apart with their swords, as our proxies.
Fascinating story. Have you considered writing your autobiography?
No. Peggy and I hit burn-out 20 years ago, and withdrew into a remote part of the Pyrenees, and gradually have lost contact with the USA, so we no longer recognize names in PEOPLE or TIME. This is great, and refreshing. The things we’ve researched have led from one to another, and as our acquaintance with how things really work has deepened, we treasure our isolation and our privacy. Certainly we remain infrequent contact with people all over the planet, but we no longer hear the annoying background noise. Living in America was like listening to Puccini in English, which is really depressing. In Europe and Asia it’s much easier to tune out the background noise, even when you have a working knowledge of the particular language.
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John Simkin, on Feb 10 2007, 09:04 AM, said:
During your research into the OSS, have you come across the name Jack Alston Crichton? It would be highly significant if he was in China at the end of the war.
No knowledge of Crichton. But I would love to see a book that focussed exclusively on GHWB’s covert activities. He has a lot to atone for, account for, aside from what is covered in books by Chaitkin and others (which is evil enough). What an utter bastard and criminal. I blame him explicitly for the destruction and death of Norbert Schlei.
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Do you have any thoughts on Jack Anderson as an investigative journalist?
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John Simkin, on Feb 13 2007, 12:59 PM, said:
Do you have any thoughts on Jack Anderson as an investigative journalist?
I’ve known Jack since the early 1960s, and of course I had worked with Les Whitten at The WashPost (Whitten for a while writing many of Jack’s columns as a sort of co-investigator and co-columnist). I later got to know Dale VanAtta, who also was a co-investigator and co-columnist with Jack — all of them working out of Jack’s offices in a red brick townhouse next to the Carnegie Institution. In fact, Peggy and I hired (and richly paid) Jack’s investigative team to help us with legwork and archival searches in Washington DC while we were living in Holland, working on THE MARCOS DYNASTY. To some extent the arrangement paid off, but most of Jack’s people let us down badly. Jack himself was helpful in giving us access to his filing cabinets going back umpteen years, and Dale was helpful in other very useful ways. But in retrospect we were hugely disappointed by just about everybody we paid to help us with research on that book, not only Jack’s people but people in Manila and Hong Kong. The book was a struggle, because of all the famous journalists who’d been based in Manila or worked for a while in Manila, or passed through Manila, not one had ever seriously researched all of the claims made by Ferdinand Marcos. The one exception being Al McCoy who researched Marcos’s claims to being a war her, and discovered they were fraudulent. It went much farther than that, of course, because Marcos had actually been working for the Japanese, as was his putative father (who was drawn and quartered by guerrillas for what he did). Jack and his organization are essentially part of the Morman Church intelligence network, which is one of the really powerful and effective private intelligence networks in America, whose computer data base on genealogy provides cover for a vast archive of intelligence files on a great many people.
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Peter Lemkin, on Feb 5 2007, 05:46 PM, said:
I haven’t yet read this book..sounds great…but I’m a bit of a student of the parallel events in Europe at the end of WW2. I highly suggest the book Nazi Gold by Sayer and Botting as a start. Much of the Nazi Gold disappeared into thin air with obvious ex-Nazi and US military/intelligence ‘traces’ to the disappearance. Add to this, that all the names mentioned above come into play directly or indirectly and the very location that the Gold disappeared just so-happens to coincide with where the Nazis that came aboard the good ship USA or were given get-out-of-jail-free cards for S. America etc. were processed, as well as a highly ‘interesting’ base in Oberammergau where many ‘interesting’ personages passed and/or got their starts in their careers………some of these names we discuss in matters much later in the USA in assassinations, covert ops, government overthrows and scandals. Seems as if the same techniques and morality [sic] applied in both theatres of war…but then some of the players were the same. I’m sure all another coincidence and not a conspiracy [cough!]
I wish somebody would underwrite Peter to research, write and publish a book about the Oberammergau circle.
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Charles Drago, on Feb 7 2007, 10:52 PM, said:
Mr. Seagrave,
It is difficult for me to overstate the importance of “Gold Warriors” to a meaningful understanding of the deep political structure — its style and its substance.
Secret governments must have their secret treasuries, I suspect.
I’m currently at work on what by all indications should be a major television project — a multi-episode drama in which the historical events related in “GW” play a central role. If all goes well I’m certain that we’ll have much to discuss.
In the interim, and for the purpose of addressing the interests of this forum, I wonder if you might expand upon the so-called “Umbrella” organization. If you’re not already aware of the fact, you should know that the symbol of an open umbrella is directly relevant to the investigation of the identities and motives of the Dealey Plaza conspirators.
Ascribe it to mere intuition and/or the creative process in full swing, but I can’t help thinking that the designers of the assassination somehow signed their work.
With gratitude and respect,
Charles Drago
The Umbrella Organization is discussed in considerable detail in Gold Warriors, and I am familiar with its relevance to Dealey Plaza. Colonel Fletcher Prouty, primary liaison between DIA and CIA for decades, and who had known Lansdale personally since 1945 in Manila, identified Lansdale in photos of Dealey Plaza. Prouty was one of our major unidentified sources for The Marcos Dynasty and Gold Warriors.
In sum, the Umbrella Organization is another term for the Octopus or The Enterprise, and combines the CIA with the Italian Mafia and Jewish Mafia (Meyer Lansky, etc.), Chinese “mafia” out of Taiwan and Hong Kong, and Japanese yakuza as famnously recruited by the CIA via Yoshio KODAMA, and is currently dominated by the Yamaguchi Gumi andits wholly-owned banks. A crude diagram of The Umbrella by Ferdinand Marcos shows these interlocking directorships. We reproduce this diagram on our 3 CDs of documentation.
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Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 09:18 PM, said:
John Simkin, on Jan 27 2007, 09:13 AM, said:
(3) Several of the people involved in setting up and administrating the Black Eagle Trust: John Foster Dulles, John J. McCloy, Edward Lansdale, Robert B. Anderson, Paul Helliwell, Ray Cline, etc., were later involved in some very dubious activities. Is there any connection between what these men did in Japan and their relationship with the far-right and the arms and oil industries?
http://www.spartacus…/USAmccloyJ.htm
Sure. Allen Dulles was a servant of the people who set up the Fed, and Edward Lansdale also. Lansdale was extremely close to HL Hunt and the Murchisons, and to Bill Pawley, Meyer Lansky, Nixon, Santo Trafficante, Shackley and Clines. Col. Fletcher Prouty, who firstmet Lansdale in Manila in 1945 and later became the primary liaison between DIA and CIA, while also being a VIP pilot of Air Force One, was a crucial source for our research. He personally identified Lansdale in the crowd at Dealey Plaza. You may not know this, but if they had failed at Dealey Plaza, JFK was supposed to go hunting with the Texas Robber Barons the following day. I could go on and on and on.
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Dear Mr. Seagrave,
I consider Col. L. Fletcher Prouty to be a mentor of mine since I first came upon his works being distributed by a company based in Costa Mesa, CA, known as The Noontide Press, in 1990.
Have you ever been contacted by Len Osanic to appear on Black Op Radio to speak about your books and your contribution to the cause? Len is the archivist for all of Prouty’s works and has kept his site known as http://www.prouty.org going since before I remember finding it on the web in 1997, when I first went on-line. As I write this to you, there is an 8 X 10 framed photo of Prouty looking down on me from the wall to the right of my computer. A birthday gift to me from Len a few years back.
I don’t get a chance to go to the site as much as I used to, but I catch the archived shows of BOR, especially when Len sends me a link to something he feels I need to know. I have met with Len a couple of times on his trips down to L.A., and he always has a home at my house, and use of my truck, if he needs it. I really want to purchase your full set of works, as soon as possible. My e-mail address is tmauro@pacbell.net. Do you take B of A VISA? Because,- the more I read of your posts, the more imperative the need for me to get my hands on your books.
I just got off the phone with Len Osanic, informing him that I’m in the middle of posting this to you on The Education Forum. He would love to hear from you, and extends the invitation to appear on his Black Op Radio Show, airing from Vancouver, B.C. every Thursday evening from 17:30 to 18:30 PST. His e-mail address is osanic@prouty.org. Please get back to me regarding the purchase of your books, ASAP, if at all possible. I am known for purchasing books for gift-giving, as a way of getting the message across, and your message has been my message for 40 or more years, and most definitely for the last seventeen.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
Theresa C. Mauro aka Ter
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Sterling Seagrave, on Feb 13 2007, 12:45 PM, said:
John Simkin, on Feb 13 2007, 12:59 PM, said:
Do you have any thoughts on Jack Anderson as an investigative journalist?
I’ve known Jack since the early 1960s, and of course I had worked with Les Whitten at The WashPost (Whitten for a while writing many of Jack’s columns as a sort of co-investigator and co-columnist). I later got to know Dale VanAtta, who also was a co-investigator and co-columnist with Jack — all of them working out of Jack’s offices in a red brick townhouse next to the Carnegie Institution. In fact, Peggy and I hired (and richly paid) Jack’s investigative team to help us with legwork and archival searches in Washington DC while we were living in Holland, working on THE MARCOS DYNASTY. To some extent the arrangement paid off, but most of Jack’s people let us down badly. Jack himself was helpful in giving us access to his filing cabinets going back umpteen years, and Dale was helpful in other very useful ways. But in retrospect we were hugely disappointed by just about everybody we paid to help us with research on that book, not only Jack’s people but people in Manila and Hong Kong. The book was a struggle, because of all the famous journalists who’d been based in Manila or worked for a while in Manila, or passed through Manila, not one had ever seriously researched all of the claims made by Ferdinand Marcos. The one exception being Al McCoy who researched Marcos’s claims to being a war her, and discovered they were fraudulent. It went much farther than that, of course, because Marcos had actually been working for the Japanese, as was his putative father (who was drawn and quartered by guerrillas for what he did). Jack and his organization are essentially part of the Morman Church intelligence network, which is one of the really powerful and effective private intelligence networks in America, whose computer data base on genealogy provides cover for a vast archive of intelligence files on a great many people.
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I read back through the thread and found:
“For those who read the 1st edition, we put these new chapters on a third CD, the set of three CDs of documentation now available at our website: http://www.bowstring.net”
I will go there, straight away. Again, thank you for coming to The Education Forum. Your information is like a breath of fresh air, and I look forward to purchasing your body of work.
Best regards,
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Terry Mauro, on Feb 17 2007, 07:59 PM, said:
Dear Mr. Seagrave,
I consider Col. L. Fletcher Prouty to be a mentor of mine since I first came upon his works being distributed by a company based in Costa Mesa, CA, known as The Noontide Press, in 1990.
Have you ever been contacted by Len Osanic to appear on Black Op Radio to speak about your books and your contribution to the cause? Len is the archivist for all of Prouty’s works and has kept his site known as http://www.prouty.org going since before I remember finding it on the web in 1997, when I first went on-line. As I write this to you, there is an 8 X 10 framed photo of Prouty looking down on me from the wall to the right of my computer. A birthday gift to me from Len a few years back.
I don’t get a chance to go to the site as much as I used to, but I catch the archived shows of BOR, especially when Len sends me a link to something he feels I need to know. I have met with Len a couple of times on his trips down to L.A., and he always has a home at my house, and use of my truck, if he needs it. I really want to purchase your full set of works, as soon as possible. My e-mail address is tmauro@pacbell.net. Do you take B of A VISA? Because,- the more I read of your posts, the more imperative the need for me to get my hands on your books.
I just got off the phone with Len Osanic, informing him that I’m in the middle of posting this to you on The Education Forum. He would love to hear from you, and extends the invitation to appear on his Black Op Radio Show, airing from Vancouver, B.C. every Thursday evening from 17:30 to 18:30 PST. His e-mail address is osanic@prouty.org. Please get back to me regarding the purchase of your books, ASAP, if at all possible. I am known for purchasing books for gift-giving, as a way of getting the message across, and your message has been my message for 40 or more years, and most definitely for the last seventeen.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
Theresa C. Mauro aka Ter
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Mr. Seagrave, I have yet to read your book, but will do so in the near future. This thread has re-heated a question I’d put on the back burner a long time ago, however. Did your research lead you to look into the murder of William Holohan? He was an OSS agent murdered in Italy while carrying gold to the Italian underground. After the war, the Italian government tried and convicted one of his fellow OSS officers, Aldo Icardi, if I remember correctly, for the crime. He was convicted. The U.S. government, however, refused to extradite Icardi to Italy, and had a trial of sorts here. Icardi was represented by Edward Bennett Williams. And was cleared when Williams’ private dick, Robert Maheu, was able to obtain a confession from an Italian communist. I don’t believe this man was ever tried for the crime in Italy. Anyhow, since Maheu was on retainer to the CIA at this time, I have long suspected that he arranged for a false confession on their orders in order to clear Icardi and blame the communists.
This suspicion was egged on after reading that OSS Chief William Donovan continued to believe Icardi was guilty.
Anyow, if you looked into this, I’m most curious as to what you uncovered…
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And if we have the author’s attention:
Did you run across references to Field Operations Intelligence in relation to treasure recovery/transfer?
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Michael Hogan, on Feb 3 2007, 05:44 PM, said:
Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 04:16 PM, said:
…..I think of the apex of this group as the Druids. Below them are their servants. People like McCloy, the Dulles Brothers, were just outsiders who became insiders because they had talent and could do the leg work. We added two additional chapters to the trade paperback from Verso, which explains a lot about these networks.
Mr. Seagrave,
Thanks for joining this Forum. I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts. Based on information in this and other threads I just ordered the hardback edition of Gold Warriors. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Could you briefly elaborate on the two additional chapters contained in the paperback version? Thank you very much.
Mike Hogan
Mike ~
Very kind. Thanks. I believe that John has now uploaded copies of the two new chapters, with their endnotes. They are based on new discoveries we made after Verso’s 1st edition. We were deluged with new material, including photos, and were startled to discover that General Yamaxxxxa’s chauffeur, who was said to have committed suicide at Billibad Prison after revealing to Lansdale the locations of 12 treasure sites, was still alive two or three years ago. We have a recent color photo of him on the CDs of documentation available at our website, http://www.bowstring.net. This means Lansdale must have bribed him and set him up with a new identity in Japan, after General Yamaxxxxa (or his double) was hanged. The new chapters also allowed us to tie together many loose ends, with the benefit of hindsight.
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Sterling Seagrave, on Feb 22 2007, 02:23 PM, said:
Very kind. Thanks. I believe that John has now uploaded copies of the two new chapters, with their endnotes. They are based on new discoveries we made after Verso’s 1st edition. We were deluged with new material, including photos, and were startled to discover that General Yamashita’s chauffeur, who was said to have committed suicide at Billibad Prison after revealing to Lansdale the locations of 12 treasure sites, was still alive two or three years ago. We have a recent color photo of him on the CDs of documentation available at our website, http://www.bowstring.net. This means Lansdale must have bribed him and set him up with a new identity in Japan, after General Yamashita (or his double) was hanged. The new chapters also allowed us to tie together many loose ends, with the benefit of hindsight.
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Terry Mauro, on Feb 17 2007, 09:59 PM, said:
Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 09:18 PM, said:
John Simkin, on Jan 27 2007, 09:13 AM, said:
(3) Several of the people involved in setting up and administrating the Black Eagle Trust: John Foster Dulles, John J. McCloy, Edward Lansdale, Robert B. Anderson, Paul Helliwell, Ray Cline, etc., were later involved in some very dubious activities. Is there any connection between what these men did in Japan and their relationship with the far-right and the arms and oil industries?
http://www.spartacus…/USAmccloyJ.htm
Sure. Allen Dulles was a servant of the people who set up the Fed, and Edward Lansdale also. Lansdale was extremely close to HL Hunt and the Murchisons, and to Bill Pawley, Meyer Lansky, Nixon, Santo Trafficante, Shackley and Clines. Col. Fletcher Prouty, who firstmet Lansdale in Manila in 1945 and later became the primary liaison between DIA and CIA, while also being a VIP pilot of Air Force One, was a crucial source for our research. He personally identified Lansdale in the crowd at Dealey Plaza. You may not know this, but if they had failed at Dealey Plaza, JFK was supposed to go hunting with the Texas Robber Barons the following day. I could go on and on and on.
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Dear Mr. Seagrave,
I consider Col. L. Fletcher Prouty to be a mentor of mine since I first came upon his works being distributed by a company based in Costa Mesa, CA, known as The Noontide Press, in 1990.
Have you ever been contacted by Len Osanic to appear on Black Op Radio to speak about your books and your contribution to the cause? Len is the archivist for all of Prouty’s works and has kept his site known as http://www.prouty.org going since before I remember finding it on the web in 1997, when I first went on-line. As I write this to you, there is an 8 X 10 framed photo of Prouty looking down on me from the wall to the right of my computer. A birthday gift to me from Len a few years back.
I don’t get a chance to go to the site as much as I used to, but I catch the archived shows of BOR, especially when Len sends me a link to something he feels I need to know. I have met with Len a couple of times on his trips down to L.A., and he always has a home at my house, and use of my truck, if he needs it. I really want to purchase your full set of works, as soon as possible. My e-mail address is tmauro@pacbell.net. Do you take B of A VISA? Because,- the more I read of your posts, the more imperative the need for me to get my hands on your books.
I just got off the phone with Len Osanic, informing him that I’m in the middle of posting this to you on The Education Forum. He would love to hear from you, and extends the invitation to appear on his Black Op Radio Show, airing from Vancouver, B.C. every Thursday evening from 17:30 to 18:30 PST. His e-mail address is osanic@prouty.org. Please get back to me regarding the purchase of your books, ASAP, if at all possible. I am known for purchasing books for gift-giving, as a way of getting the message across, and your message has been my message for 40 or more years, and most definitely for the last seventeen.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
Theresa C. Mauro aka Ter
Culver City, CA
Hi Ter ~
We’ve been in touch with Len Osanic, who kindly provided us with a CDROM of some of Fletcher Prouty’s archives. We haven’t done any live interviews in a long time, except by email where we can reflect on things before we reply. We’re allergic to the media because we’ve been burned by both a British TV producer and a Japanese TV producer. The Brit turned out to be working for some folks at the US Embassy who wanted to smear us, and the Japanese were sent to find out exactly where we lived — which resulted in threatening midnight phonecalls from US Treasury agents to my wife’s elderly parents in North Carolina, and an attempt to trick us into going to the US Consulate in Marseille for “an IRS audit” where we would have been “disappeared”. We managed to block the harrassment by reporting all this to the French DEST, whose HQ is just down the road. /// The only book we sell at our website is the first edition of GOLD WARRIORS, and three CDs of documentation (BofA cards accepted, especially yours). The rest are either available at Amazon.com or at Abebooks.com (a global net of used book dealers). Probably the best edition of Gold Warriors is the paperback, which has two new chapters added. But for those with the hardback, John Simkin has now posted PDF versions somewhere here. (I’m still a novice finding my way around here.)
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Pat Speer, on Feb 22 2007, 12:50 AM, said:
Mr. Seagrave, I have yet to read your book, but will do so in the near future. This thread has re-heated a question I’d put on the back burner a long time ago, however. Did your research lead you to look into the murder of William Holohan? He was an OSS agent murdered in Italy while carrying gold to the Italian underground. After the war, the Italian government tried and convicted one of his fellow OSS officers, Aldo Icardi, if I remember correctly, for the crime. He was convicted. The U.S. government, however, refused to extradite Icardi to Italy, and had a trial of sorts here. Icardi was represented by Edward Bennett Williams. And was cleared when Williams’ private dick, Robert Maheu, was able to obtain a confession from an Italian communist. I don’t believe this man was ever tried for the crime in Italy. Anyhow, since Maheu was on retainer to the CIA at this time, I have long suspected that he arranged for a false confession on their orders in order to clear Icardi and blame the communists.
This suspicion was egged on after reading that OSS Chief William Donovan continued to believe Icardi was guilty.
Anyow, if you looked into this, I’m most curious as to what you uncovered…
Pat ~
We had not looked into the murder of Holohan by Icardi, but it follows: It was James Jesus Angleton who was in charge of CIA covert ops in Italy, which were largely carried out through the Sicilian Mafia following a deal made with Mafia families in America, and the Vatican’s Opus Dei and other militant orders, who shared the Mafia’s fear of a Communist takeover of Italy after WW2. In Manila, Santa Romana was a member of Opus Dei, working with Lansdale and the CIA in moving Japanese looted gold to the Vatican bank and other banks in Europe and South America with links to the Vatican. A lot of this bullion was physically moved and guarded in transit by the Mafia (as verified by a schematic diagram drawn by President Marcos, showing the basic networking of The Umbrella, reproduced on our CDs). While the Mafia carried out the rough stuff, including murdering anyone who voted for the Italian Communist Party, the Mafia and Opus Dei had what can only be described as an “uneasy relationship” — very accurately portrayed BTW in “Godfather-3” — and illustrated by the Banco Ambrosiano scandal, and related murders, including of a Pope. This arrangement preceded the CIA and was functioning during WW2, linking OSS-Vatican-Mafia long before the Allied landings in Sicily. The fact that Holohan was an Irish Catholic OSS agent moving bullion covertly to the Italian underground, which was largely communist , while Icardi was a violently anti-communist Mafia hit-man who saw a chance to divert the bullion to Palermo, gives you all you need to value the Italian conviction. However, the deal made by Washington with the American Mafia families, meant that “made guys” like Icardi had to be protected (absolved). Williams was a flamboyant choice to pleade the case, but the key was the CIA agent Maheu who got an Italian “communist” patsy to take the fall — all part of blaming the PCI for everything including rancid olive oil. The same Maheu, I believe, who ended up wiping Howard Hughes’ backside, and appears to have been one of many involved in the JFK assassination. See our new Epilogue for Wild Bill Donovan’s history in all this. Angleton later was promoted to chief of counter-intelligence at the CIA, a job Angleton confided he got only when he swore he would never subject either Allen Dulles or John Foster Dulles to lie detector tests about their pre-war and wartime collaboration with Nazi bankers and secret agents.
Sterling Seagrave
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Posted 22 February 2007 – 05:04 PM
Charles Drago, on Feb 22 2007, 01:36 AM, said:
And if we have the author’s attention:
Did you run across references to Field Operations Intelligence in relation to treasure recovery/transfer?
Hi Charles ~
Sorry, but Peggy only lets me out of my cage every other day.
No. Not that I recall. I know the term, but don’t associate it with recoveries of Japanese loot in the PI. There everything seems to have been done by Willoughby’s G-2 (with help from US Army Corps of Engineers) until CIA came on the scene and privatized it. However, in Japan, Willoughby re-focussed on having leftists and liberals assassinated, and employing Kodama, Sasakawa and other war criminals excused from Sugamo Prison — so the US Army carried out most recoveries in the Home Islands. This is supported by US Army archives that cite an astonishing quantity of recovered war loot and drugs. This meant a number of organizations became involved in Japan.
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Posted 22 February 2007 – 07:11 PM
Sterling Seagrave, on Feb 22 2007, 06:04 PM, said:
Charles Drago, on Feb 22 2007, 01:36 AM, said:
And if we have the author’s attention:
Did you run across references to Field Operations Intelligence in relation to treasure recovery/transfer?
Hi Charles ~
Sorry, but Peggy only lets me out of my cage every other day.
No. Not that I recall. I know the term, but don’t associate it with recoveries of Japanese loot in the PI. There everything seems to have been done by Willoughby’s G-2 (with help from US Army Corps of Engineers) until CIA came on the scene and privatized it. However, in Japan, Willoughby re-focussed on having leftists and liberals assassinated, and employing Kodama, Sasakawa and other war criminals excused from Sugamo Prison — so the US Army carried out most recoveries in the Home Islands. This is supported by US Army archives that cite an astonishing quantity of recovered war loot and drugs. This meant a number of organizations became involved in Japan.
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Sterling,
Many thanks. The FOI business is more than a hunch, less than a defensible hypothesis. At least for the time being.
Field Operations Intelligence has been referenced only twice — to my knowledge — in the canon, most recently and intriguingly by Dick Russell in “The Man Who Knew Too Much,” and even there just briefly. That Richard Case Nagell connects to FOI — or so he claimed — and to intelligence ops in Japan, and to relatively arcane insights into Willoughby (who at the time of publication of Russell’s tome was not at all appreciated by the JFK community) was enough to activate the radar.
Nagell played the FOI card very close to his vest. He intimated that the organization was important and, to paraphrase, above top secret.
Yeah, I may be far off the mark on this one. But the scent lingers in the air, like cordite on a warm, late November afternoon in the South, so we press on.
Charles
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#33 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #33] Nathaniel Heidenheimer
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Posted 22 February 2007 – 09:01 PM
Mr. Seagrave thanks for writing here on the forum; as humble tribute I have tried posting your book around on various mainstream sites like those
affiliated with St. Louis Post Dispatch and Des Moines Register. Might seem a waste of time, but these get a lot of viewers, and IF FRAMED THE RIGHT WAY
can attract readers to the forum and perhaps get a few extra amazonian sales. I included a review of some of other books by the guy from Harvard in
in order to ward off those who would shout “conspiracy theory” on que as if it were a new pledge of allegiance. I held the H like a cross in an exorcism,
that’s how superfically this term has become!
Something to think about in a journalistic environment in which the real McCoys got stung thirty years ago.
My question concerns Al Haig and his Saucy “57” bond.
Am I correct in infering that this is the only time one of these extra special bonds was cashed?
You mention that Haig first visited Bush 41 in an effort to learn how to make the Japanese budge from their position that all of
the bonds were frauds. Do you think that this meeting was adversarial or cooperative? I ask this because I am unclear about the
relationship between Bush and Haig. I have read in some places that they didn’t like each other an there Bush had Haig ejected
after Haig’s — some say strategically misquoted– “Im in charge here” immediately following the Reagan assassination attempt.
On the other hand the book Silent Coup seems to implicate Haig in a right wing, CIA connected coup to remove Nixon becasue of opposition
to hs moves away from the Gold Standard and towards the USSR and China.
Do you have any thoughts on this Haig- Bush relationship or frostbite? Did it effect their meeting over the 57 in any way?
I was unaware of Haig’s background with McArthur and his little fascist. Are you aware of any links that Haig may have maintained with China
OSS types through the years, perhaps via ONI?
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Posted 10 March 2007 – 11:25 PM
Dear Mr. Seagrave,
I consider Col. L. Fletcher Prouty to be a mentor of mine since I first came upon his works being distributed by a company based in Costa Mesa, CA, known as The Noontide Press, in 1990.
Have you ever been contacted by Len Osanic to appear on Black Op Radio to speak about your books and your contribution to the cause? Len is the archivist for all of Prouty’s works and has kept his site known as http://www.prouty.org going since before I remember finding it on the web in 1997, when I first went on-line. As I write this to you, there is an 8 X 10 framed photo of Prouty looking down on me from the wall to the right of my computer. A birthday gift to me from Len a few years back.
I don’t get a chance to go to the site as much as I used to, but I catch the archived shows of BOR, especially when Len sends me a link to something he feels I need to know. I have met with Len a couple of times on his trips down to L.A., and he always has a home at my house, and use of my truck, if he needs it. I really want to purchase your full set of works, as soon as possible. My e-mail address is tmauro@pacbell.net. Do you take B of A VISA? Because, the more I read of your posts, the more imperative the need for me to get my hands on your books.
I just got off the phone with Len Osanic, informing him that I’m in the middle of posting this to you on The Education Forum. He would love to hear from you, and extends the invitation to appear on his Black Op Radio Show, airing from Vancouver, B.C. every Thursday evening from 17:30 to 18:30 PST. His e-mail address is osanic@prouty.org. Please get back to me regarding the purchase of your books, ASAP, if at all possible. I am known for purchasing books for gift-giving, as a way of getting the message across, and your message has been my message for 40 or more years, and most definitely for the last seventeen.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
Theresa C. Mauro aka Ter
Culver City, CA
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Hi Ter ~
We’ve been in touch with Len Osanic, who kindly provided us with a CDROM of some of Fletcher Prouty’s archives. We haven’t done any live interviews in a long time, except by email where we can reflect on things before we reply. We’re allergic to the media because we’ve been burned by both a British TV producer and a Japanese TV producer. The Brit turned out to be working for some folks at the US Embassy who wanted to smear us, and the Japanese were sent to find out exactly where we lived — which resulted in threatening midnight phonecalls from US Treasury agents to my wife’s elderly parents in North Carolina, and an attempt to trick us into going to the US Consulate in Marseille for “an IRS audit” where we would have been “disappeared”. We managed to block the harrassment by reporting all this to the French DEST, whose HQ is just down the road. /// The only book we sell at our website is the first edition of GOLD WARRIORS, and three CDs of documentation (BofA cards accepted, especially yours). The rest are either available at Amazon.com or at Abebooks.com (a global net of used book dealers). Probably the best edition of Gold Warriors is the paperback, which has two new chapters added. But for those with the hardback, John Simkin has now posted PDF versions somewhere here. (I’m still a novice finding my way around here.)
Sterling
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Dear Mr. Seagrave,
Thank you, so much, for your reply. I went to your web site, which directed me to amazon.com. I have purchased Gold Warriors, The Soong Dynasty, and The Last Empress. They were out of Ferdinand Marcos. I have since purchased another copy of Gold Warriors for a dear friend of mine in Northern California, who just underwent surgery for Pulmonary Fibrosis, and was so thrilled to have a copy in hand to read during his recovery. And, I was informed just last week by my partner, Jeff, that I am not at liberty to give away my copy, since he has decided to make it his copy. He remarked that he finds the content of information of such important documentation, that it is to be kept in his possession. This is coming from a Viet Nam vet, and I’m not about to argue with him. Besides, he never forgave me for giving away all my Prouty books and CD’s. But, it’s extremely important to get the word out to the most diversified population I can think of. A lot of people would never have heard about Prouty, such as my Sociology of Law professor, an attorney in her own right, had I not passed his works on to her. So, I’ve just ordered up another 2 copies of Gold Warriors, and I really need to get my hands on the CD’s because they’re not being offered on Amazon. And yes, the copies I’ve been purchasing are in paperback, and at a very good price, I might add. I will go back to Bowstring, straight away, and order the CD’s’, as soon as I finish this post.
I’m very dismayed to hear of the way your family has been harassed and subjected to such egregious indignities by U.S. gov. emissaries. I don’t blame you for taking leave of the States. It’s been a sorry excuse for something masquerading as a democracy. Then again, the very principles upon which it was based were one-sided to begin with, pertaining strictly to those of the white male, and landed gentry. A troubling legacy, akin to a festering sore, was all that could be expected to develop in the hearts and minds of those who swallowed the doctrine of Manifest Destiny. And, without so much as a blink of an eye, or a xxxxx of the conscience, to the atrocities being committed against the native inhabitants, and the African slaves being imported.
From what I’ve just read of your personal accounts, nothing seems to have changed all that much. Anyone, so bold as to attempt to go up against Mockingbird, will be subjectively reminded of just how much contempt is going to be held for them. Therefore, I completely understand your need for treasuring your privacy, and for wishing to maintain as low a profile as possible. I’m grateful to you and Peggy for having had the courage to document this part of history, making it accessible to a whole new generation, who’ll hopefully become inspired to ask the pointed questions, in spite of being accused of asking them, have the courage to recognize the need for, and demand their government be held accountable. I can’t think of any greater homage owed to those pioneers such as yourself, Prouty, Garrison, et.al. who’ve risked everything, that the truth may be heard.
Thank you, again.
Warmest regards,
Ter
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#35 [Sterling and Peggy Seagrave: Gold Warriors: post #35] Sterling Seagrave
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Michael Hogan, on Feb 3 2007, 05:44 PM, said:
Sterling Seagrave, on Jan 29 2007, 04:16 PM, said:
…..I think of the apex of this group as the Druids. Below them are their servants. People like McCloy, the Dulles Brothers, were just outsiders who became insiders because they had talent and could do the leg work. We added two additional chapters to the trade paperback from Verso, which explains a lot about these networks.
Mr. Seagrave,
Thanks for joining this Forum. I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts. Based on information in this and other threads I just ordered the hardback edition of Gold Warriors. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Could you briefly elaborate on the two additional chapters contained in the paperback version? Thank you very much.
Mike Hogan
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Sterling,
Maybe the allergy is of your own making?
On the First Circle documentary, you must take much of the blame for this. You ran into that steel hammer, head first, eyes-open in your anxiety to get your book promoted. I think they saw you coming and smiled.
But there was another option in the wings, as you know. Richard would have treated the subject fairly and with respect. But the impression I have is that he didn’t much care to be played. You told me you were meeting with the First Circle people but not to worry about it, as it had nothing to do with what we were interested in….
Had Richard known in advance that there was not one, but two other contenders in the ring, I don’t think he would’ve entertained the idea at all. But he didn’t know did he — not from you anyway. Finding out discretely from industry sources that development money was not only “in place” but that filming was due to start in “two weeks time” came as an unpleasant surprise – given the effort already undertaken in good faith.
But even so – and despite my personal animosity towards you for reasons that you are more than familiar with – I don’t like seeing an important work tarnished by outright propagandistic disinformation. Heck those First Circle guys even had Imelda making fun of you and we both know she was up to her filthy neck in one black gold deal after another. They even showed an image of my website, but didn’t have the good grace to ask if they could.
Maybe you should update that photo of yours. It was twenty-five years out of date, seven years ago. Face it, you ain’t that young anymore…
David
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